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Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 19 Jul 2012, 15:06
by Whyperion
Every time I have tried to eat a Ciabatta leads me to think the definition as stated is correct.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 04:47
by Stanley
I'll stick to my home-made bread.....

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jul 2012, 06:41
by Stanley
When I was a lad in Stockport 'quod' was a common name given to gaol. Was it used universally? Where does it come from?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jul 2012, 07:05
by EileenDavid
Never heard that one Stanley but I hope Man United get more quods this year. Eileen

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jul 2012, 07:17
by Wendyf
All I can find about quod is that it was slang for prison or jail.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 24 Jul 2012, 07:45
by Bodger
Was it quod or quad, ie short for quadrangle, the exercise area ?
How about " a bit on the side",, i have an interpertation, and its nothing to do with an extra partner,

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 25 Jul 2012, 04:51
by Stanley
That connection with the exercise yard struck me as well. Other names for gaol, 'nick', 'chokey' 'porridge'.... In the army it was 'the glasshouse'.
I've always associated 'a bit on the side' as being an extra, like bread or salad with a meal or an extra source of income. Something in addition or extra.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 06:50
by Stanley
Yesterday we had a very light shower around 8am and it looks a bit threatening now. I remember that when this happened whan I was a lad my mother used to say "It's only Pride of the Morning, it won't last". Anybody else heard this one?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 08:12
by Gloria
I started a new thread with this query before I noticed I could have put it on here, so here it is again.
"You've got a nose like Sam Herb"---- has anyone heard this saying, and who the heck was Sam Herb?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 08:32
by Wendyf
Nope, never heard of Sam Herb or Pride of the Morning.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 26 Jul 2012, 08:36
by Bodger
Re "bit on the side", the explanation i heard that it was to do with gold miners etc, who would hide some nuggget etc. on the wall of the tunnel for removal later?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 03:22
by Stanley
That sounds feasible Bodge. When my mate Daniel did his picture story on the beach ship-breaking in Bangladesh he noticed that the workers were searched for contraband as they left the yard. They were so poor they were stealing small pieces of non-ferocious and steel nuts and bolts. A bit of bunce.....

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 06:57
by EileenDavid
I remember my mam used to say rain before 7 fine by 11 Eileen

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 07:14
by Gearce
Stanley wrote:That sounds feasible Bodge. When my mate Daniel did his picture story on the beach ship-breaking in Bangladesh he noticed that the workers were searched for contraband as they left the yard. They were so poor they were stealing small pieces of non-ferocious and steel nuts and bolts. A bit of bunce.....
Pardon me asking - 'non-ferocious'?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 27 Jul 2012, 08:06
by Gloria
Gearce, it didn't bite :laugh5:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 28 Jul 2012, 03:58
by Stanley
Same stable as insulting tape.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 29 Jul 2012, 05:11
by Stanley
My dad, an Australian, had a saying "A drunken man on a galloping horse will never see it!" When I came to Sough in 1956 I found that there was a local version of this, "They'll never see it off t'Ribble!"
Any more versions?

God knows why this one popped into my head but can you remember how cruel we were to each other as children? When I was in my first school, if we saw someone picking their nose we would chant "Doing it, doing it, picking your nose and chewing it!" Was I in a very rough school or did we all do this at one time or another?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 30 Jul 2012, 08:50
by EileenDavid
We had a slight variation of "a blind man would be fain to see it" or if it was something on your back then the saying was "a good soldier never looks behind" No Stanley you weren't in a rough school. Picking your nose and eating it dirty devil for doing it, was also common place in my school also I must have gone to a really rough school as they used to say swap you a black one for a green one. Then I went to an all girls school and we became young ladies very difficult when being the only girl in a field full of brothers. Eileen

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 31 Jul 2012, 05:19
by Stanley
Thank God for that Eileen. I can rest easier! My mate Daniel did a pic of a wool dealer on the Bradford Exchange picking his nose, rolling the product into balls and flicking them away. When I was involved in boilers we classified jobs by how black your snot was at the end of the day. Not a bad guide to air quality, you get it in cities but not in the countryside.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 04:31
by Stanley
Have I asked about using 'rully' for a four wheeled trailer? I think I came across it in Warwickshire. Never heard it up here.

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 08:14
by EileenDavid
Never heard that one Stanley. I used the word ginnel and people didn't know what it was is this another northern word. Eileen

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 09:01
by Whyperion
When does a ginnel become a snicket , do you have to go half way down the alleyway to find out ?

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 12:07
by Bodger
Ginnel
reminds me of the old joke about the old man who goes to the doctor complaining about piles, the doctor gives him some suppositries, telling him when he gets home, that each day for a week he should place one in his back passage,
A week later goes back to the doctor who asks how did the pills work. the man replies for all the good they did i may as well as stuck them up my A-se

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 01 Aug 2012, 14:21
by Tripps
"When does a ginnel become a snicket "

My first thought was that the answer is when you cross from Lancashire to Yorkshire. I've know ginnel all my life, but never heard of snicket. I'm reminded of the expression "He couldn't stop a pig in a a ginnel", used sometimes in rougher times, to describe someone with bow legs. I've looked it up and it gets quite complicated, with some expressions used very locally. Wiki said "Entry " is used in Manchester. I qualify but would have said you go through the 'ginnel' to get to the 'back entry'. As usual in these cases everyone thinks that their version is the right one. :smile:

Re: DIALECT AND WORD MEANINGS

Posted: 02 Aug 2012, 04:33
by Stanley
Yes, 'entry' was the term in Stockport when I was a lad. As to regional variations, I once came across a piece of research that fascinated me. Researchers went out and plotted on the map the places where names for common objects changed. When they put all the results together they found that the concentrations of changes occurred mainly along identifiable lines across the country and then realised that these were the boundaries of the old kingdoms of Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex etc. The folk memory had preserved these differences over thousands of years.